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Re: Jehovahs Witnesses in the Grand Scheme of Things.
« Reply #45 on: May 22, 2012, 06:24:17 AM »
To Dupin;

Please point out the sarcasim.

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Re: Jehovahs Witnesses in the Grand Scheme of Things.
« Reply #46 on: May 22, 2012, 06:26:46 AM »
To K.A.;

All will get a chance in the 1000 years except the 144,000 who are in heaven right?

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Re: Jehovahs Witnesses in the Grand Scheme of Things.
« Reply #47 on: May 22, 2012, 03:22:13 PM »
To Dupin;

Please point out the sarcasim.

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You have given me the message that all will be saved.  How sweet, I have nothing to fear or do because of being in the dark.  Not being spirit begotten. I don't have to do a thing.  Sweet!  Lets check a few things. Dats of Noah.  Did Noah have to anything?  Lot's son-in-laws, his wife and himself and his two daughters?  The man of God in 1 kings 13?  The Ninevites at Jonah? The people living in Jerusalem in 66 C.E. when the Romans left?  How about King Zedikiah?  NJB parts of Jer 32,"king of Babylon was at that time besieging Jerusalem."  "Iam now going to deliver this city into the hands of the king of Babylon for him to capture it."   "and Zedikiah will not escape the power of the Chaldeans, but will inevitably be delivered into the hands of the of the king of Babylon, speak to him personally and see him face to face. He will take Zedikiah to Babylon and he will stay there(until I visit him- it is Yahweh who speaks. If you fight the Chaldeans you will not succeed!   What would you do as king?   Go to next post. 

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Re: Jehovahs Witnesses in the Grand Scheme of Things.
« Reply #48 on: May 22, 2012, 04:06:05 PM »
To Broken 2;

That site R1645 on the last part said we will all have some of the bad come to us because we are all immperfect.  And it showed wonderful blessings for the begotten and sad results for the others which I am reaping.  Not being chosen and unable to distinguish truth for I am always told I twist the teachings of the Pastor, I reap the bad results.  Yet you have told me, better days are ahead for me,so I have to wait till all his chosen are in heaven and then the 1000 years begans.

Let us take another look at the final statements made in the article.

“A just estimate of the Lord's dealings in the future judgment of the repentant of the world may be approximated by a careful observance of his dealings with his justified and consecrated children now. Though justified, we are not liberated from all the consequences of our past ignorance or waywardness.

If in youthful ignorance and waywardness bad habits were contracted which have impaired health and weakened moral and physical powers, we have all the difficulties to struggle against now, though we realize the divine forgiveness and assistance.

This is our judgment day; and the judgment of the world will proceed upon the same general principles.

They will first be brought to a knowledge of the truth, and will then be judged according to their use or abuse of that knowledge after they receive it, as worthy or unworthy of life, the good and bad actions of their first life previous to their knowledge of the truth entering into it only in the natural order of the retributive character of moral law, as above described.” (R1655)

According to what we read here as you have stated we all more or less have some bad character traits which need to be corrected, this applies to both the spirit begotten and to those not begotten. Likewise as noted the Lord does not treat the spirit begotten any different here, we too are left to deal with the consequences of our past waywardness, but the Lord has promised assistance in rectifying these matters even as he has promised the same for the world in the next age.

Yes better days are coming, that is why we are taught to pray for the kingdom.                                 
"For precept must be upon precept, line upon line, here a little, there a little" Isa 28:10